encouraging this behavior? >> martha: what is the president need to do to mend fences were necessary. as a necessary for him to do that? >> two things. the men and women that do the hard work of intelligence collection are doing it every day. they are completely apolitical. they are on the lines every day doing the hard work, special operations intelligence. what he needs to do is do a housecleaning of those middle level to senior level managers. he has gotten rid of all of the political appointees that aren't good. you have to go a layer below that to take them out. you have to replace those individuals, mid-level managers, who sought political benefit by getting close to those political appointees. they got to go because their loyalty is not of the american people, not with the constitution, the previous administration. >> martha: mike pompeo has got his work cut out for him. thank you very much. good to see you. here now with response to all of that from the white house, doris epstein, special assistant to