president-elect trump was undermining president obama and russian policy back in december. that is what the media goal is, that is what they want. also, as we said last night, if there is truth to those allegations, they should be taken very seriously, when the facts are presented. when president trump first mention draining the swamp in washington, i don't believe he understood how extensive the problem really is. for eight years of presidents obama, there are many people working in the government who liked the former president and who despised mr. trump. eliminating all of them, stopping the leaks, pretty much be impossible. also don't trying to get fairness out of the anti-trump , as well. the trump administration has its hands full. that is "the memo." now, reaction. now, joining us from stanford connecticut, ari fleischer, who worked with president bush the younger. what do you think? >> they are cut from different