kind of like a weird mccarthyism. he's in collusion with the russians, the russians control the government. it seems like we've been here before. >> tom: we have, everything old is new again. cathy, i'm going to go away into the end of the table here. what do you think of his music? >> with glenn stephani, it was a huge hit. >> tom: he's out collaborator. >> maybe he's right, maybe the intel is right, maybe moby is onto something. >> tom: we're laughing about him, maybe he doesn't know some thing. what if he's smarter than mike baker? >> he has 2.4 million followers, today he did say that he's a clown on his faceboo he took it all back kind of because he got a lot of criticism. i'm a clown, don't listen to me, maybe i'm wrong. that was today. >> tom: now i believe that it's accurate information, because why would he say i'm a clown unless i was threatened by