between president trump and foreign leaders. we are finding out what president trump said to the australian prime minister. now we are finding out what he said to vladimir putin. >> you always have leaks, you're right. you always have more junior white house staffers wanting to be in the know with reporters. but the leaks of these conversations, i think, are problematic. i don't know if that leak is coming for the communications team. i do think they have to tighten this up. this is not in the best interest of the president. i think he has had some great foreign policy successes, i think this weekend, the golf summit seems to be going swimmingly. hearing these phone calls characterized, it underlines it, need to tighten it up quickly. >> chris: less than a minute, charles. i don't think that when you're talking about leaking private phone calls, sounds to me like it is people in the permanent government who don't approve of this president, trying to embarrass him. >> you wonder about sort of the