blow to the president and his first month in office. you usually don't see this kind of check on presidential power this early in a presidency, although certainly this case will go on through the legal system. >> chris: what did they expect? there have been comments and you could tell it in president trump's remarks after the hearing, after he had listened in, he was pretty contemptuous of the lawyers, the three judges in the court of appeals panel. did they think this was going to go against him? >> they were trying to make predictions but they listened to the audio that we all heard. being pretty tough on the government lawyer. i think the argument you're going to see from the argument going forward, we are hearing this broadly is that the president has a lot of sway over national security decisions. if this goes forward, you're going to hear them trying to back up this argument. this is the president of the