i expect a decision by 9:00 tonight as to whether or not they are going to uphold judge row bart's decision. if they do, there will be a trial in his courtroom over the lawfulness of president trump's order. and if they don't, then the order is go back to where we were when he issued it on january 27th. the authority is his. whether he exercises that authority prudently is a political judgment. it's not a judicial one. steve: all right. and when donald trump says so-called judge and you look at his history from the bench? >> i think the president was upset and i -- knowing him as i have gotten to in the past few months, i think i can understand his being upset by that what this judge about politically before he was on the bench i honestly think is irrelevant. he has a reputation as a mainstream even courageous judge. but, all judges make mistakes. i can tell you from all the times i got reversed. that's why they have appellate courts.