that, they might come down. and now there's reports that this might be a permanent arrangement. we're getting conflicting reports. the trump camp says that's not the case. should it matter either way? judy kurtz, what are you hearing? >> there's no doubt that melania trump has been mia since the inaugural weekend. should it matter? we don't have to have the first lady that takes on the traditional role like hillary clinton or michelle obama. why should she be picking out napkins and china when she would be rather spending time with her 10-year-old son. >> neil: maybe we've gotten so used to it that she's there as well that in this day and age, where a couple will have divided responsibilities, in this case a young child being schooled in new york, it shouldn't matter. we should all shut up. >> well, as we've seen with the trump presidency, nothing about president trump is orthodox.