and joint chiefs chairman. he said the president just made council meetings option for those two officials. let's bring in tara moller, the spokesperson for the counter extremism project. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> shepard: this is easy to push away saying there's nothing here. what is this? >> there is something here. some people might push it away and is say it's bureaucratic reorganization. two things that are significant here. number 1, you're right. joint chiefs and the dni were both given nonmandatory rules on the nfc principal's committee and the promotion of steve bannon, a political advisor. these are departures from the past. i'm glad to see sean spicer modified the order saying they will be adding c.i.a. director pompeo on. begs the question why this was happening after the case and not