difficult for some who have been so antilife to say oh, no, the actual rational people would be pro-choice. no. reason in this case, stands with a defense of life. the vice president, president, kellyanne conway have been a refreshing voice to say we are not necessarily republicans. if we think about it right now, this administration is going to post partisan is in many ways. it's just what makes sense. it's what people in the middle of the country actually believe. >> sean: what about people that think it's may be okay in the first trimester? my answer is, i am pro-choice but if you choose to get in the bed with somebody and choose to remove every article of your clothing -- you have a lot of choices leading up to that act. >> we are all pro free will.