sees it. if someone who experienced a conversion on the issue of abortion, i believe that sometimes, people who do convert to the pro-life movement really have a strong voice. they have seen the damage that the abortion industry can do. that now they can speak about the life issue. >> tucker: president trump has pledged repeatedly to defund planned parenthood. that takes hundreds of millions of dollars from taxpayers every year. you were to planned parenthood for a while. do think the people at planned parenthood have any kind of moral qual or do they see it as a medical procedure? i think they see it as an medical procedure but it is really the costs that are surrounding planned parenthood and the services they provide. it is their highest revenue generating product that they sell. they implement abortion quotas and all of their clinics. you have to perform a certain number of abortions every month. one of left -- >> tucker: are the explicit about it?