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do i think it works? absolutely. steve: here's the thing about donald trump, i don't know if you have noticed, he is not a p.c. guy. he will do anything in his power to keep us safe. he said he would ask people at the highest level of the intelligence community. evidence has asked them, does torture work, they have told him, according to this, yes. absolutely it works. brian: i would actually wrestle with this word. it is enhanced interrogation. nobody is for torture. it's how you define what it takes to get the most out of a terrorist quickly noord to make sure nothing blows up at times square or serious tower. jim mitchell wrote a book about it. he was contracted by the cia to come up with enhanced interrogation practices including sheikh mohammed and the worst of the worst. he chronicles in his book we don't get bin laden without it and half of these guys don't understand what al qaeda is without it. here is jim mitchell. >> i think we do have to look at the techniques and determine what is working.

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