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replacement. >> the democrats are very happy in some ways they are going to get rid of obamacare. this was the one big answer -- paul: politically. >> this was one big answer, a new solution that was going to be revolutionary and change things for the better. didn't work. they are happy. we had it for six years. they're happy to dump it off. i'm more optimistic, there are a lot of pitfalls, we can go through them, if we have momentum, get one part down on the replace part, it creates the conditions for further things down the road. so i think that the main thing is that they need to show momentum. they have the repeal and show good things being done. because our goal is not, the problem is, obamacare is like, closing down a nuclear plant. there is all this waste. you can't turn it off and walk away. you have to be careful with that waste because it can kill you in the meantime. so i think they just have to have the momentum. paul: the argument is, that you hear, and i hear is, okay, we'll have this replacement deadline a

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