and the same day i was told they made this at the white house, the chinese were back up to their old tricks. can you have a good deal with the russians when it comes to cyber security? >> i think, frankly, no. an a lot of people don't want a good deal when it comes to cyber security with moscow. and capitol hill, we got the public version. capitol hill are getting the other version and some are getting higher. they want to react. and that the obama administration has thrown pebbles against moss contemporaneous and he wants to start throwing rocks. you're going to have calls for more sanctions and actions on this. i don't think anybody wants to deal in terms of cyber security with moscow, not right now. leland: we'll see how that plays into mr. trump's tweets. foreign policy typically the purview of the man who lives