the organizing for america organization. the obama campaign's offshoot, sort of drew energy away from other democratic groups so you have a case where republicans don't just have the white house and congress but have state governments across the country making a difference and putting in place policies giving democrats a lot of heartburn. >> you got a lot of heartburn? >> the old-timers tell you barack obama during the eight years of his presidency, the first -- >> did a huge amount of fundraising. >> the command center of the electoral war machine, a large use of it, studio in the basement, he did fill the promotional package.