>> let me ask, what do you say to jonathon who says it's gang violence and illegal gun violence perpetrating this war on cops. first of all, do you believe there's a war on cops? >> there's the rhetoric that says there's a war on cops. that's inflammatory. >> there are numbers there. it's not inflammatory >> you're in the studio with the guy. i'm in a booth. give me respect and let me speak. we have easy access to guns. we have limited mental health care capabilities and we know we're not targeting the home grown terrorists that exist in this country. there are white separatist groups, white smem cyst groups that have perpetrated attacks on police that nobody is talking about -- >> the guy is eric, number one. number two, the no spin zone.