relative to the size of the country. but in the end, really, this is something that is going to have to be fought in the middle east. the wins of isis or the potential or the perception that isis is winning is very empowering for terrorists in the west, and i think that's what germany and the u.s. have to work on is action in the middle east. >> and on that point, the ankara murder, that's really the one consequence of syria. obviously the terrorist is responsible, but germany has not done very much at all to help us and help in syria or the middle east, because they just don't want to participate in any military operation. >> i think further to mary's point, what we're seeing in europe is the failure of middle eastern policy. even the most generous country cannot take everyone from all the disruptions there. and we need a reasonable level