cnbc named north carolina number five for top states in business. the commerce secretary there in north carolina says there has been no impact impact, at least not measurable on north carolina's economy. does it matter though if we are seeing the political impact of what it did for conservatives there. >> yeah. well, it wouldn't be the first time that the media focused on an economic impact that was supposedly devastating that wasn't actually born out by the numbers, right? i think the most interesting thing about this looking forward is whether this becomes a model for how democrats operate nationwide. they are taking a position that i think is still a minority position. remember, i mean, to charlie's point, what hb 2 did was in effect say that people should go to the bathrooms assigned with the biology that they were born with. which i think for most americans is not that controversial. it's not that mean spirited. >> that's what the polling shows. >> but what you saw was this massive movement really by the left and by democrats