relationship that i think will continue forever because there are lots of issues they're interested in, particularly bettering the lives of women and girls around the world. and i think they will stay very involved in that. but mrs. obama was very clear about how much help mrs. bush gave her and said the door is open for me to help -- because nobody noes what it's like until you're there particularly if you have not been fist lady of the state and that was the case for mrs. obama and certainly the case for mrs. trump so i think it's a wonderful, wonderful thing the way these women really do help each other. >> a special role. >> it is a special role. >> and it means a lot the way the family presented and i think it gives stability to the president. in terms of ivanka, it looks like she's going to play an unusual role and perhaps step in to the social aspects of some of this and policy issues, as well. kind of like a first lady in her role, as well.