cia believes that the russians hacked in order to help donald trump. you have clearly some intel agencies that are not on the same page when it comes to this. >> right. >> now, nunez is trying to figure this out and he calls this committee hearing and gets the heisman award from the intel agencies, we're not going. now, how are the electors who are asking for intel briefings to feel confident about -- >> that to me is inexplicable. put aside the dissention about the motive. there is one thing that is almost unanimous, which is that russia accounted hacked. russia wanted to sow doubts among americans about their own electoral process. that's a real cyber attack and it's really serious. that's something that donald trump, so far the only prominent american that we know of, who has completely rejected that finding that russia hacked. as a matter of fact, he said it could have been a 400-pound guy