cushion. >> a former fbi assistant director with us. ron, goes back and forth between the cia and the fbi on their respective intelligence takes on this. who are we to trust or count on for reliable suspicions? >> that's a great question, neil. i think that they could be -- we could be in a situation where the different agencies are relying on different intelligence to form the basis of their individual opinion. that could be the cia has deeper access to sources and methods that are their own, that they're protecting from others, and they should. and then drawing their conclusions on sources and methods that the fbi dot nat -- does not have immediate access to, or the fbi is more cautious. no doubt in counter, when we talk about a beyond a reasonable