individual. the judge did not allow the towel evidence she had seen him in a towel earlier. remember, there was some emotions that were brought forth during and before the trial that talked about some evidence being more prejudice. but the point is -- >> got to go -- >> the point is he did target her and this isn't the case of just happening upon it. this man is right where he needs to be, judge. >> all right, ken kratz, thank yoe requested both of steven avery's attorneys from the murder trial. they declined. we'll hear what one told megyn kelly this week. i go one on one with avery's cousin. one of the best known forensic pathologists is here.