tom you said they carry the turtles in the pocket and hands them to children. >> i just like saying that. >> i got through it. >> you did, it is a great sentence. jeb bush carries tiny toy turtle in pocket and carries them out to children. >> you should say it. >> it would be cool if they were real turtles. >> given that bush is fighting the portrayal as low energy, don't you think comparing himself to a turtle or tortoise is not the best way to go? >> i completely agree. he skipped from running to president to being an old map who wants to run against donald trump, the seven-time president of the united states. >> do you think it is trump that made him not want to do