i cut him -- cut his shirt off with the box cut canner, the terrorist was stabbing spencer with and from there we pretty much just rode the rest of the train out until it got to our stop. >> what was going on in the train? were people screaming? and were any of the conductors or anyone in the train helping you or was it just basically the three of you and the brit and there was another unidentified -- a man named damion, i think. >> well, the unidentified man, he actually did a lot more at the beginning. apparently we talked to him right after it happened. and he told us that was waiting for the bathroom and when the guy came out with the ak, they just stared at each other for a few seconds and he started to choke him. and apparently a train employee, i don't know if it was the same one that ran past me or not. a train employee came and broke them up thinking it was a regular fight. and then when he broke them up, that's when he came into