>> you're looking at the brick facade in front of the oven this is the hollow cavity that will go back further. >> even though this was a kitchen where someone could be working around 1608, by 1609, 1610, it's not used as a kitchen any more? >> over 200 colonists die here in jamestown alone during that winter and only about 60 survive. >> settlers made incredible sacrifices to stay alive. forced to eat theirta dogs, the horses, and worse. >> so it's your belief that now we know that it was such a desperate time that they had to resort to cannibalism do survive? >> exactly. this iso not a ritual this is survival cannibalism. these guys had no other choice. we do know without a shadow of i doubt that cannibalism took place at jamestown that winter. >> how do you know that? >> we know from a layer of soil we found at this level, we found a mandible, which is a jaw bone. we found a fragmented skull or