sense throughout the entire debate that she was less debating with sanders or o'malley. and they see her as too hawkish. in other words, they were saying you're too aggressive on this front. so that gives you something of the democratic temperature, that they do not -- unlike the republican debate where they're talking about carpet bombing and killing families. here you see hillary clinton as the most aggressive among the democrats in terms of taking the fight to isis. >> matt, bernie sanders was saying to that effect, he kept saying she's so anxious for regime change and he really tried to pin her down on that. >> i saw a real similarity between the republican debate and the democratic debate. obviously the races are different. hillary clinton is by far the front runner. on the republican side, it's in flux. but what you have is a similar dynamic, where you have an establishment candidate who are much more hawkish, much more