carrot top for god's sake. >> this is true. gutfeld, mcguirk and i were discussing in the break the democrat debate which is saturday. i didn't even knowit. i have to confess. i didn't even know it was on. you didn't know it. and you didn't know it. >> it's actually up against lockup. and i don't know if you watch lockup. i can't because it brings back memories. the thing is you bring up hillary and it's not about beating up each other in the debate. it's about beating hillary. because she cannot be in charge of national security with her email mess. that's like putting anthony weiner in charge of your high school yearbook. it makes no sense at all, bill. no sense. >> the fact of the matter is that it's such, you know, forgone conclusion unless she is indicted as we said and she is the nominee. why would anybody watch it. >> it could be like lockup some time in the future for her. it's good job out of whoever is telecasting it and promoting it. >> abc is going to have it. >> nobody knows about it. >> i'm embarrassed. >> it's transmitted.