to some extent, that's legitimate. but, looking at this from the inside. like i said you and i have been on the inside. you know what we're trying to do. they are trying to pit one person against the other rather than eliciting information. it's quote better television and makes you look tougher. >> i would do it too if there was a legitimate issue like muslims. so i think that you have to íb']í'ing muslims and will that lead to discrimination? >> yeah. that's perfectly legitimate you have to. it's huge. the country is angry at muslims now. generally speaking. it's not fair but it's reality. you have to deal with reality and get everybody on the record about that i don't think there is anything unfair with that but, i do feel that it's easier for cnn to interview or to moderate a republican debate than a democrat debate. it's easier.