sorts by saying they're muslim and this woman, just came from pakistan, and saudi arabia. and everybody is leaping to make conclusions. >> that's not leaping. >> it was leaping, it's a methodical look at research. >> here's the thing that strikes me, i think the real danger is what they're calling self-radicalization. i'm told that she somehow pledges -- >> she pledge aid legion is to isis and al-baghdadi. >> i'm jumping into -- >> an obvious hotbed of lies and despicable propaganda. >> this is what i'm concerned about -- you are wrong. you know because you don't understand the job of a lawyer, this is america -- in america -- >> if i was representing you, i would introduce some element of doubt. but let me just say --