that we can't send 100,000 u.s. troops back to a mideast war. is it 10,000? is it 20,000? when you say we need to use all of our might give our viewers a ball park. >> general keane, who i much respect testified a few days ago, we need about 10,000 troops on the ground. he said two brigades. that is in combat, not support troops, about 10,000 troops, too, as a possible reinforcement if we need them. i'd say in the ball park of between 10,000 and 20,000. >> that's on the ground in syria. >> that's on the ground between syria and iraq, including some support. >> all right. we appreciate it this morning. ambassador jeffrey, serious times and you're bringing very sharp analysis to it. we appreciate you joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> terrifying moments caught on camera meanwhile. college student is shot trying to protect a woman. we'll have an update on his condition, next. plus triple trouble with schools, an ivy league university comparing the gop to jihadi john. and two middle school assignments on isis and islam. what in the world is happening at our schools?