about? i am not making a joke. 1801 is when the war really started. go back 15 years and there is an american ship and it is captain richard o'brian. he is sailing across the barbery coast and a ship comes up alongside of him and what happens? >> he is boarded and they take the ship and all of these guys captive and strip them of everything they have. not only are they taken, button slaved. o'brian is kept for 10 years in the most harshest conditions. we are a new country. what is your problem? they used koran and the islamic religion as a false crutch because we were infidels and now susceptibles to be taken. we describe what it was like because richard o'brian wrote it down. all of the accounts of the prisoners and who they went through as new americans. we had no president, no constitution, finally trying to get commerce going. we had merchant ships being taken by the islamic pirate ships. >> adams was for paying the ransom essentially and jefferson says this is something to go to war over.