the likes of which we haven't really seen before. >> and the targeting of the soft targets. is that the wave of the future, fran? is this what's going to happen? does paris, does france, does the united states become israel in the effect where that is the new reality? >> no question. lo look. the bad guys have moved to soft targets because they're easier for them. there are things we can do to disrupt this but we need surveillance tools, we need intelligence and the resource put against the capabilities to ensure that we continue to have the edge to try to disrupt plots. >> but we're going to op site way are we not? >> exactly right. and you know, we've become complacent over time because we've been successful disrupting them here in the united states.