>> if we look at brain development, we apply it to nonviolent offense. is that the same argument for a 16 year old who commits murder and rape. >> already the juvenile court has a way to take care of people who shouldn't be held in juf noil court. most get tried as adults, if you raise the age to 21, they could have a semipermanent. it doesn't mean that everyone stays in the juvenile court. >> and that is a good point. what is the benefits if the state of connecticut moves forward. what is the benefit to the state and community. >> i was commissioner of probation in new york city. there is a stark difference; the courts and police and probation treats juveniles and adults.