socialization of aspect of schools being taken out. they're spending so much time focused on these tests. >> you're right. i think when you look at parents, parents are kind of reacting because they're seeing their students really stressed about these tests. we've seen stories of kids getting sick in the morning, they spend weeks getting sick. high levels of anxiety because they can feel and sense. the school environment that the tests have taken so much importance. when you look at that number of mandated standardized tests, it's not just the tests. these kids are taking state-based tests and local district assessments. you think about how much that number can grow over the year for the child. it's a very intimidating experience. we all want accountability and make sure that children are learning and reaching the fullest potential that they can. we're not sure tests make sure that that happens. >> do you disagree? talking about the stress, the kids are not eating, getting scared before they take these things. >> what i see is what's causing stress is social media more than anything. i have kids in my office every