it's 35% lower than five years ago. john: what about the war on cops we are hearing about? >> in terms of cops being killed by citizens, the numbers are as low as they have been. john: put this chart at the shows 50 years. we have seen the steady decline as few as we have seen for a long time. john: the highpoint on that chart was prohibition. >> yes, obviously that created a dangerous situation in america. we are not like that now. it's still a difficult profession obviously that the risk of being killed in the line of duty is significantly less. john: do you feel safer in your neighborhood than they used to or are you scared? >> people think they are safe in the neighborhood but the nation is dangerous because they get their perceptions of their neighborhood from their everyday life. they get perceptions of what's going on from television.