and the employers can't afford to do this. >> see i think republicans make a very emotionally tone-deaf response to this. they have to have an answer. >> here's the answer. >> without employers, you can't have jobs. if employers don't have money, they can't, so if you're going to -- >> do you think that sell to the mainstream media? >> i think people understand that. where do i get my job from? >> i get it from my employer, my boss. >> you know how we're vilified. we're companies, we're people. you remember the whole thing with romney. >> most people don't work for big corporations like news corp. these companies have small margins, my point is we have to stop treating employers like they're atm machines, every time we want a social policy change, we want employers. >> you're articulate on these issues. >> you know what a 49er is? not a san francisco 49er. >> ways thinking that.