situation like this, try to put lipstick on a pig. what no one is talking about is the tragic policy failure that is libya and was at the time and certainly is now. and that was a bipartisan failure. it's like a group of people getting together, burning down a house ar at least setting it on fire so it's so decrepit it's almost falling over and when it kills a small child later on, we get mad at them for that. >> right. >> but not for burning the house down. this is a real tragedy. libya is still burning right now. the problems we're having with isis are related to that and both parties had a role. >> should we just have left kadhafi in? >> whether he's there or not, i don't know if t's a better circumstance now. >> joanne, what did you make of it? the media sucks. >> listen, not everyone was just throwing hillary softballs. what you didn't see in the hearing is actually they let reporters ask some questions afterwards, and i think we have tape. can we roll it, stan?