>> yeah. >> that would have been the moment. that would have been the moment. >> she didn't give them a moment. >> another important thing, they really, in my mind, showed this is really a politicalish about -- >> no, it's part of the process. >> no, really, so the obsessiveness about blumenthal and the fact they won't release all the transcripts and all the e-mails. this is very back to the '90s kind of stuff. you know, you really feel like -- >> washington insiders, the role -- >> right. >> what happened to bill clinton. >> the washington insiders, fascinating as the guy trying to do business with libya, trying to advise hillary. but there are a lot of people in the country that have to wonder. let me ask you about a poll, season. 53% believe the committee was trying to damage hillary politically. but also, 57% disapprove of her handling of e-mails. maybe the public has concluded. >> it's, again, an issue of trust. and i don't think this hearing helped her. now, what they can do, if you want to play politics with this is each side can take bits and pieces of that video, keep using it going forward to either