201. whey have that done to tip the scales in the pacts? >> joining us now, maria. >> good to see you guys. trump's comments once again feed right into basically the way people feel about this subject. the money is ugly. it's a lot. you look at the past years, 2012 super pact spending, obama versus romney. $288.6 million supporting obama, $25.1 million opposing romney, $87.1 million supporting romney. these are huge numbers, obviously and the evidence is still, you know, sketchy in terms whether they are coordinating with the candidates. >> there is some question about that as it relates to why donald trump shut his down. look at the numbers overwhelmingly on the negative side. the ads work. do you think we'll see his call out to other campaigns to get rid of other super pacts? >> i don't think so. this is at the end of the day legal so they can create these