they don't want to challenge the russians. they're giving lip service to the americans. >> hmm. so much more to talk about, but i have to leave it there, because we are out of time for now, but i'm sure we'll keep talking about about this. definitely a situation that keeps unfolding. rick, next time you bring yourself to new york, come talk to me. the agreement. >> or you come to california. >> i'm there. thanks a lot. good to see you. >> see ya. and staggering numbers coming in how cyber crime is taking its toll in the global economy. annual cost estimated at nearly half a trillion, trillion with a t, the key to making illegal activity work is what's called the dark web. that's where cyber criminals can collaborate to share information. without being detected. how does it work? what's being done to try and shut it down? in new york city, to our newsroom to describe the dark web. >> hi, eric. fake passports, drugs, credit card numbers for sale on the