about the liberties you have to give up. remember, free healthcare? by way of obamacare? look at all the liberties that people have given up. you can't keep your doctor. you can't keep your own health insurance. all of that was never talked about. >> all right. let me give you a little bit of a curve ball then. who is more of a feminist part a and part b who is going to got women's vote between carly fiorina and secretary clinton. >> that is a curve ball, greta and you normally don't do that to me. here's my answer. i don't think it's about who is being more of a feminist it's about which one one of those women connect the best with the american public and the women. i am going to say this and i know i'm going out on a limb. whoever gets the republican nomination. carly fiorina gets the republican nomination, hillary is toast.