shootings in chicago over the past three years. 6,000. also, since mr. obama took office, more than 3,000 people have been murdered in his hometown of chicago. most of them black. with us now to analyze kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. what is the reason for the murder spike in september. >> i called the chicago police department today to find out. they blame it on mandatory minimums like too light. three months. that's all they got. when you are look at such light sentences, the bad guys are more afraid of the gangs and retaliation from the gangs than they are of the state. >> arrested and put on trial they plea it down. >> three months. >> they walk out. >> is that your analysis as well? >> in terms of the mandatory minimums choosing the low end. creating a revolving door. >> they are part of the problem, right? >> i think the cops are the problem. >> when i was a local reporter here in new york city, at wcbs, there were more than 3,000 murders a