very conservative foreign policy compared to donald trump where he wants to retreat from the world, he wants to retreat from the ukraine region. he doesn't want america to put a fight up there. he doesn't want to fight putin in syria. he wants to abandon the south china sea. >> i've got to stop you right there because what you say is absolutely inaccurate. first of all -- can you imagine marco rubio sitting down with the likes of vladimir putin? it's like a -- it's taking candy from a -- >> marco did predict -- it was an interesting line when he called putin a gangster and laid out exactly what he's engaged in now going in to help assad and syria and has ambitions to exert his influence in the region because of america's vacuum created by obama. he was dead right on that. >> he's not dead right about it, sean. >> yeah, he is. >> the bottom line is if in foreign policy you want to be able to get what you need, you got to be the dealmaker. you got to be donald trump. >> let me ask you this. >> vladimir putin will look at marco rubio the same way he looks at obama, like a lambchop.