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other leaders offered. he said, hold himself accountable. he'll do your show once a month. the difference between kevin and i give him credit for that because you're tough and he was tough right back. the difference is kevin is likable. kevin is smart about these policies and that kevin is opening up the leadership so that conservatives have a chance and most importantly a voice, that's something that -- >> trey gowdy as the house majority leader and trey doesn't want the job. >> no. you know what? >> give credit for opening up conservatives to have the chance to be heard, to have their votes on the floor. sean, please give him credit where credit is due. >> i'll give him credit for that. but i'm a trust and verify guy. he did try to bring gowdy in. in fairness, scottie, no republican house freedom caucus member's running. there's two guys running. >> that's right. they don't want to run, which also speaks very highly -- lowly of them, actually. you know, one thing about the

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