you can get a lot of tour from the barrel of oil more so than you can from the barrel of a gun. bill: if you tbleef general keane -- if you believe general keane and general petraeus that putin is going run out of money, how effective can he be giving russia a food hold back in the middle east? >> putin will continue to be aggressive. we know he uses his energy as a political weapon. we ought to be using our energy as an economic as well as political weapon and we dock that by exporting morley questionified natural gas, including crude oil. i think that that would hayesen the demise of putin. putin is spread out with his investments in syria and ukraine and crimea and all around the world. putin becoming more aggressive in the arctic.