punching in his viewpoint. we went back and forth on that. what was interesting was the reaction of the other pastors. they kind of started jumping on me for asking the question saying we don't want him to dial it back. that's who he is. they like it. what it said to me, a lot of the evangelicalsing donald trump aren't expecting he'll be holding bible studies in the oval office. they just want somebody to solve problems. >> ultimately, it's a room full of pastors. from your viewpoint, is he religious enough for you? >> you know what, after seven years of barack obama, the tlsh hold of expectations has been lowered. they don't want someone who is one of them. they just don't want one that doesn't hate them like the current person in the oval office. the fact that he makes an attempt at evangelicals and says he likes them -- >> you're talking about the war