reason for this trip. >> no, no. i'm just saying he is aware that as a business, it's in trouble. >> totally agree with that. and -- >> whew. he was giving me a word like these is going to be long. >> no. no. he is well aware because one place has been latin america, catholic and a he is seeing a church which is active and generous, and a society which is generous. but he has seen the church in europe, latin america, and you're right. heat saying, open doors, mercy, mercy, mercy, come back. trade. you're going bet a warm embrace when you come home. >> father, the rap against -- from the conservative catholics we don't like what he is saying about annulments, what he is saying about gays, what he is saying about forgive those who have had an abortion. you heard it all. they're the ones he is ticking