rule is therefore unimportant or has no value. as dr. jeffers knows very well, as soon as you say okay, your clergy can get married, it doesn't mean all of a sudden you have no problems. >> isn't that a money decision because the church wanted to hang on to their money? >> i think there is partly economic -- the fact that my parish only has to pay me $25,000 a year about, it is easier for the parish in the bronx. but, there's also an imitation of jesus himself. jesus himself who chose not to get married. >> but we're not gentlemen success. listen, all have sinned and fallen short. start with me, i'm guiltier than anybody. >> what did st. paul say? >> he said it is better to get married than to burn. >> he also said -- >> go ahead. >> sean, and of course in timothy 1:3 the bible says the pastor is to be the husband of