issue. >> on the issue of? >> you know, frisk those who just look suspicious, frisk them. he is against that. you were just saying our security is compromised when we don't look at suspicious characters. >> i think you at least have to stop people and speak to them. may not necessarily pat them all down. >> isn't he saying stop them but don't necessarily automatically frisk them? >> i think depends on what people say to you. your suspicious levels are raised in the conversation. >> are you two on common ground on this? >> i don't think we had a discussion on it but i'm supporter of stop, question and frisk. it may be applicable in crowd situations. >> crime has been ticking up again. not to alarming levels but certainly higher than it was. lot of people are getting nervous. >> there's a feeling. people are concerned about the trend, you can feel it in the city. i think the crime levels, the ones you are really concerned about, shootings and murders,