and so, what i think we need to be able to do, i want to hear five minutes from candidate on iran. from the border. i want to hear five minutes from each candidate on how to create jobs and create growth. there are many broken down simply, but the reason the media don't want to do that, particularly networks like cnn is it's not exciting. they want to pie fight. they want the three stooges. some of the candidates are better at navigating through. and getting their sound bites in, but i don't it helps the republic very much. >> let's go through the the individuals. trump got the majority of time. he is the front-runner. he was attackeded a lot. how do you feel he handled it? >> right from the get go, jake tapper and cnn and a number of the candidates, they said in advance, they're going after trump. he's the guy that's out front, so he had a scrum. i thought that was the worst 30 or 40 minutes of tv of debate,