budget and we didn't have the money. >> you know what, coco, i got to tell you, there's a reason that americans don't trust her, there's a reason they connect the word liar and untrustworthy to her because nobody believes her anymore. >> because you keep saying it. >> what? because i keep saying it? i thought nobody listened to me. >> because conservatives say repeatedly, repeatedly, these are terrible people and don't trust them, so a lot of people start to believe it, but i don't believe it -- >> bye, coco. bernie sanders is beating her. thank you, coco. with me now is someone who feels a little differently than coco, ann coulter. >> i like the defense that she